Privacy’s Defenders Podcast: Cowboys, Cypherpunks and Visionaries (www.eff.org)
<div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden"><div class="field__items"><div class="field__item even"><p><span data-contrast="auto">People are increasingly concerned about the ways in which mass surveillance is tracking our every move: from Flock license plate readers to face recognition to creepy ads that – based on what we see and do online – seem to know everything we’re thinking and planning. It didn’t have to be this way, and since the early days of the internet, a dedicated band of activists, lawyers and technologists have fought for a better, more secure and private digital future – a future that’s still attainable. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Cindy Cohn, who just finished a 26-year run with the Electronic Frontier Foundation including 11 years as its executive director, has lived this fight. She says privacy isn’t just about secrecy: It's ultimately about power – who has it, and who has the ability to protect themselves from it. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Welcome to the first episode of “Privacy’s Defenders,” a podcast about the people – lawyers, journalists, hackers, and others – who’ve fought to secure your digital liberties since before most people even knew what the internet was.</span></p>
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<p>(You can also find this episode <a href="https://archive.org/details/privacys-defenders-e-1-fine-cut-v-5" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on the Internet Archive</a>.)</p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">In this episode, Cindy talks with EFF cofounder </span><a href="https://www.eff.org/about/board/john-gilmore" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">John Gilmore</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> about how he – an early employee at Sun Microsystems – came together with Lotus Development cofounder </span><a href="https://www.kaporcenter.org/team/mitch-kapor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">Mitch Kapor</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> and cattle rancher, philosopher and Grateful Dead lyricist </span><a href="https://www.eff.org/john-perry-barlow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">John Perry Barlow</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> to create EFF as a bulwark against government investigation and prosecution of early internet users. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">It’s a story of the Secret Service’s “Operation Sundevil,” jet-setting tech titans, tie-dyed cypherpunks, and a fateful house party in San Francisco’s Haight-Ashbury district amid the earliest days of online communications, setting the stage for the battles that created the internet as we know it and issues we still grapple with today.</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">The “Privacy’s Defenders” podcast is a follow-up to Cindy’s book, “Privacy’s Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance,” bringing to life pivotal moments in the voices of those who fought for your rights. Sales of “Privacy’s Defender” benefit EFF, so </span><a href="https://shopeff.org/products/privacys-defender-by-cindy-cohn" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">pick up your copy today</span></a><span data-contrast="auto">!</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Joanne Elgart Jennings co-produced and created this podcast. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Jarod Sport co-produced, mixed, and mastered it. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Corinne Ruff is our story editor.</span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">We had additional help from Rachel Estabrook and Alison Broverman.</span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">The original music was composed and performed by Nat Keefe of Hot Buttered Rum with Ben Andrews on the fiddle. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">And other archival sound came from the Internet Archive's amazing collection, including the snippet of the Grateful Dead song “Cassidy” that John Perry Barlow co-wrote.</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
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<p><span data-contrast="auto">Cindy Cohn, who just finished a 26-year run with the Electronic Frontier Foundation including 11 years as its executive director, has lived this fight. She says privacy isn’t just about secrecy: It's ultimately about power – who has it, and who has the ability to protect themselves from it. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Welcome to the first episode of “Privacy’s Defenders,” a podcast about the people – lawyers, journalists, hackers, and others – who’ve fought to secure your digital liberties since before most people even knew what the internet was.</span></p>
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<p>(You can also find this episode <a href="https://archive.org/details/privacys-defenders-e-1-fine-cut-v-5" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on the Internet Archive</a>.)</p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">In this episode, Cindy talks with EFF cofounder </span><a href="https://www.eff.org/about/board/john-gilmore" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">John Gilmore</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> about how he – an early employee at Sun Microsystems – came together with Lotus Development cofounder </span><a href="https://www.kaporcenter.org/team/mitch-kapor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">Mitch Kapor</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> and cattle rancher, philosopher and Grateful Dead lyricist </span><a href="https://www.eff.org/john-perry-barlow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">John Perry Barlow</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> to create EFF as a bulwark against government investigation and prosecution of early internet users. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">It’s a story of the Secret Service’s “Operation Sundevil,” jet-setting tech titans, tie-dyed cypherpunks, and a fateful house party in San Francisco’s Haight-Ashbury district amid the earliest days of online communications, setting the stage for the battles that created the internet as we know it and issues we still grapple with today.</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">The “Privacy’s Defenders” podcast is a follow-up to Cindy’s book, “Privacy’s Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance,” bringing to life pivotal moments in the voices of those who fought for your rights. Sales of “Privacy’s Defender” benefit EFF, so </span><a href="https://shopeff.org/products/privacys-defender-by-cindy-cohn" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span data-contrast="none">pick up your copy today</span></a><span data-contrast="auto">!</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Joanne Elgart Jennings co-produced and created this podcast. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Jarod Sport co-produced, mixed, and mastered it. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">Corinne Ruff is our story editor.</span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">We had additional help from Rachel Estabrook and Alison Broverman.</span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">The original music was composed and performed by Nat Keefe of Hot Buttered Rum with Ben Andrews on the fiddle. </span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
<p><span data-contrast="auto">And other archival sound came from the Internet Archive's amazing collection, including the snippet of the Grateful Dead song “Cassidy” that John Perry Barlow co-wrote.</span><span data-ccp-props="{}"> </span></p>
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